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Class notes today!

*If your grades are not up by Monday, talk to Dr. Allred.
*Watch "Crimes and Misdemeanors" by Wed April 14 and be ready to discuss in class.
*So far, Wiki notes have been good! Good Job!! :)

  • Kant says its never okay to lie: example: murderer shows up at your house wanting to kill your best friend. If you lie to murder, then you are lying to society.
  • Its your duty to tell the truth
  • Kant believes that lying is the worst ethical sin: it takes away someone elses freedom
  • Kant thinks that two duties never conflict. Ross thinks that they do.
  • Kant claims that it is your duty with no exceptions.
    • Isnt your duty to protect your friends, doesnt it go against your duty? Yes/No? — mostly Yes

*Ulititarians have a hard time dealing with lying— most of us end up in this situation.

If you dont lie, and Jigsaw kills your friend, are you responsible for killing your friend?
-indirectly: you told, but you didnt actually kill your friend.
-Kant says: i didnt even help. There is no difference between killing and letting die
-what actions should and shouldn't i do? how do i be an honest person?

—> (arrow means action)

Tell the truth? Lie?
X ------——> Y

Can have good guesses as to how actions will change the world(X).
Deontoligts believe on principles and duties of X. (AKA maxiums): act because you want to be moral. not for the outcome.
Ulitiarian does not see the difference between killing and letting die. They lead to the same consequence.

Kant says "No, I will not help kill my friend" telling the truth.
-how does this relate to the action? Its not your choice, its jigsaws choice. Jigsaw is responsible for his death. Because acting on moral principle, it leads to his death.
-You were doing what you were supposed to be doing because you were telling the truth. (Kants argument)

Fundamental rule in Kants ethics
-Duties are rules, and you should follow them because they are the right thing to do and no other reason than that.
-Good in itself or good for something else (inherently)
- Medicine: tastes gross, but it is good to make your body healthy.
-Happiness/ the good life
-Eudaimonia (Good character)

-Money can be goood (give to charity), money can be bad (buy drugs)
-It's good to be smart, unless you use your smartness for evil.

The only thing that is good is the desire to do a good thing. Happiness, Pleasure, No suffering, Virtue Ethics etc.
*we want to be good; its the only basis for Kant.
- only humans count because they can decide the terms of morality. Animals cannot.

*The best way to deal with someone like that is:
*I know its right, but I want to be wrong. How should you deal with this person?: talk to them, explain. help them to desire the right thing.

Categorical Imperative
-Rule that tells me how to make moral rules (Maxims- life principle)
- Example of maxims: Do whatever you can to get ahead. Do what benefits me. Always obey YOUR mother, tell the truth, — all tell you what you should do. how to act on situation.

What is an Imperative?
-Command. Something that you have to do.
-Kant says that we all use imperatives all the time (Normatively).
-Hypothetical: depend on some hypothesis. something that may or maynot be true. [If you will X] (Hypothetical), [then do Y] (imperative). "If you want to do well in this class, this is what you have to do." "If you do well in this class, then you will get a good grade." Happiness is ultimate goal for everyone. If i want to be happy, then i should do X,Y,and Z.
- Happiness is not the same for everyone: some of the same ones people have would include: family, career etc.
-Categorical:

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