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Logic is a great course for people considering law school —- UT's traditional introductory logic courses are introduction to formal logic and critical thinking (pre-law folks might find critical thinking particularly helpful.) But UT also has a cool new approach that combines elements of both classes called Evidence and Reason.

Logic by Doctor Ammon AllredDoctor Ammon Allred, 10 May 2010 18:37

Throughout last week I spent some more time considering the question further, which proved to be efforts in avoidance. After more deliberation I realized a sense of being propelled to continue the started discussion because of my own sense of perseverance. Right or wrong? Neither. I was meeting a fear about my understanding of the question…What if I am completely wrong in how I am attempting to answer this question? What comes of a person who fears such things? Well, the short answer became: "I decided to learn and let go." At least that is what I told myself. This notion that I was to stop pretending that the lyrics "Well, I was sad enough last Saturday. I woke you to talk, but I didn't have much to say," are entirely true, but for now I have something to say.

Further thoughts (Adapted from class notes as well as recollection, re: minimal formal research):
For Kant, his writings on teleology, in particular his second section entitled Critique of the Teleological Power of Judgment, are an effort to understand the purpose or extent of historical acts in nature, i.e., he wants to understand the history, or the story of things coming to pass. He addresses this sense of movement (stepping outside of nature with the power of reason) in a direction toward enlightenment, where reason shall prevail over ignorance. It is to this end that the connection can be made betwixt idealizing a principle and the outcome of that principle by a guided effort, which is exemplified in his kingdom of ends.

So to sum the aforementioned content into a response to the question: “How does Kant's theory of the kingdom of ends fit in with the teleological direction of his writings on history?”

I shall answer Kant’s theory of the kingdom of ends seeks to present a final stage scenario, where he can carry out a thought experiment regarding the ways his theory on morality might be carried out and judged successful or not successful. This fits in with his teleological direction on his writings of history by attempting judge the end the historical struggle against nature to overcome ignorance, or immaturity, by realizing the power that reason has to establish itself over nature.

As time permits, I shall try to explore this further. Please discuss any additions, corrections, or oversights noted and contribute at will.

One place I would start is (take your pick of variations on translation):
What is Enlightenment? at
An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment? at
An Answer to the Question: What is Enlightenment? at MSU Moorhead

I strongly agree with jen….The solution is much more complicated than mediation…. people have to change their views of life, there needs to more family base life in America and American society are slipping away from that… It's actually proven that if families do more together the probability of children getting in trouble with drugs or gangs or stuff is lower than if no family time. Kids need someone to go to and a family member is usually where they would go to, to get advice or help or simply just being there. Kids are lost and confused a lot in their life and they do need a good role model in their life… and now days it seems a lot of the time children act better than the adults and that's sad. And I'm not sure how the society can encourage more family base…. but it would be a great idea to try

by andrea petitjean andrea petitjean , 23 Apr 2010 20:50
Cash20Cash20 23 Apr 2010 17:28
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Agreed Jennifer

by Cash20Cash20, 23 Apr 2010 17:28

Straight Man in a Gay World. (Season 1 Episode 4)

Re: 30 days by Doctor Ammon AllredDoctor Ammon Allred, 22 Apr 2010 21:54

Does anyone know what episode of 30 days we are supposed to watch for monday?

30 days by ewinnerewinner, 22 Apr 2010 19:10

I think the ideas put forth about alternative dispute resolution are great, but we need to do more than just that. Like Cash said this is embedded in society. We need to change how people view things so they will change their actions. It's not just as easy as developing mediation programs in communities. The problem is complicated and more needs to be done.

by Jennifer JustenJennifer Justen, 22 Apr 2010 14:37
Cash20Cash20 22 Apr 2010 01:50
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I agree with Professor Allred saying that mediation could help troubled kids in communities by attempting to not lock them into a life of crime. I agree but I also disagree because in this day and age mediation wouldn't do anything for the youth. I am from Cleveland and growing up there I have seen alot of young children trying to fit in or be like the next person walking around flashing their money. They believe this is the life and some just want attention although mediation would be help youth may not feel they need it.

by Cash20Cash20, 22 Apr 2010 01:50
Cash20Cash20 20 Apr 2010 15:12
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Matt I agree with you becasue when I was called for Jury duty as much as I didnt want to be there I went anyway. You are right you should get paid for our work whether we sit in the room all day with strangers or actually serve on a jury. Jennifer you also so make a very good point I know for a fact I would want someone with sense to show up if I were about to be convicted of a crime or anything.

by Cash20Cash20, 20 Apr 2010 15:12

I agree that is a good point I have never looked it that way

Re: DNA after the fact by Cash20Cash20, 20 Apr 2010 15:06

We should demand fair compensation to serve on juries. People should be paid what they would recieve at work for their time spent being a juror. Their should be a limit of say 20 or 30 dollars an hour. I can not forsee paying a movie star or other high earning individual thousands of dollars an hour for participating in a civic duty.

by Matt MaierMatt Maier, 19 Apr 2010 03:16

Awesome approach. I'll be looking forward to seeing where it goes.

by Doctor Ammon AllredDoctor Ammon Allred, 18 Apr 2010 19:45

I thought this article brought up some interesting things to think about. Should there be a federal law about whether to have DNA evidence looked at after the conviction has already been decided? Many people have been freed by the use of DNA evidence after serving years of the sentence, but should we require that this extensive testing be done?


DNA after the fact by Jennifer JustenJennifer Justen, 18 Apr 2010 19:39

I think this is an ideal situation. From what I understand, when deals are made then they generally follow through. If this was reality, the guy probably would have walked and wouldn't have even had a trial because he made a deal. A good movie that displays all of this is Law Abiding Citizen, which is a little gory, but overall very good and interesting. It criticizes how our legal system works.

by Jennifer JustenJennifer Justen, 18 Apr 2010 19:35

I spent some time earlier this week contemplating the kingdom of ends from recollection of previous philosophy classes, but today is the day that I have started research beyond thought exploration. Many tabs across the toolbar of an internet browser ensue and I cannot shake the feeling I may just have to head to the library to sort it out a little more…this may be the foundations of a paper…but I should rather like to discuss Fichte in more detail. Oh! The choices one must make.

Initial thoughts (re: no formal research):
Kant creating a thought experiment of the kingdom of ends to demonstrate the ideal end of his categorical imperative. His categorical imperative being a rational being's ability to universalize an action through will by considering the implications for all under such circumstances. This kingdom filled with those rational beings (ends-in-oneselves or, simply, ends) would then be both the leaders and followers of a society strictly adhering to the categorical imperative by positing and following universal moral laws.

The beginning by Daniel HuesmanDaniel Huesman, 18 Apr 2010 19:03

I agree with you. Missing work should not even be a factor. Although you do not get paid by your employer, they cannot hold it against you either. It is surprising that so many people do not want to show up.

Re: Ditching Jury Duty by Amber McMahonAmber McMahon, 16 Apr 2010 00:08

I thought this might go along with our discussion on judges and juries. I was wathing Law and Order and the plot in the court room went as follows:
A man is caught, he has a little girl somewhere alive. He says he will give her up if the DA makes a deal and sets him free. The DA is on edge, two people think he should let him go to save the girl's life, and the others think not. How can we let a killer go? The defendant is confessing, he says he has her. The DA then goes to the judge and says: USE YOUR DISCRESSION! In the final scene the people make the deal with the defendant. He stands and makes a guilty plea and tells everyone where the girl is. They call the detectives and they recover her alive. The Prosecutor says the people move to immediate sentencing as time served. The judge looks at the defendant and says,"…… you didn't make a deal with ME, you are guilty and I am making my call based on the law, and you broke it."
What do you guys think?

by Amber McMahonAmber McMahon, 16 Apr 2010 00:02

I am aware that many people do not want to serve on a jury, but it really surprised me that 60% of those called don't even show up. Even though I would not want to take the time out from work, I would still show up. If I were on trial, I would hope that people, intelligent people, would understand how important the position of juror is and take it seriously.

Ditching Jury Duty by Jennifer JustenJennifer Justen, 12 Apr 2010 00:58

Might I add on to this I had jury duty this past summer and they call alot of people into a big room and you just sit there until you are called for a jury. I sat in there for 3 days and didnt even get to see the court room so I was basically there doing nothing when I could have been at work. Although you do get paid when its over it doesnt make up the time I lost at work.

Re: Jury? by Cash20Cash20, 06 Apr 2010 15:44

I would probably try to get out of it because I'm just not very interested. However, depending on the case, it may not be a bad experience.

Re: Jury? by Jennifer JustenJennifer Justen, 06 Apr 2010 14:51
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