March 15

• Grades will be distributed on Wednesday as well as posted on blackboard
• There is now a wiki rubric
• We talked a little bit about the mini field experience, make sure that you turn in your interview questions a week ahead of time. Those who you interview can even be ex-convicts.

Discussed previously:
What is law?
What does law mean?
What is force?
2 players:
Role of judges
Role of the police officer
People being judged
The citizen
People interacting w/ the judge

*all of the content of the previous discussions have led us to the role of lawyers

• How does the fact that there is a profession called lawyer affect what law is?

• Day to day people practice the law…What does it mean to practice the law?

o What is the law in practice?


1. Friendly Fire (323)
a. Guantanamo Bay
b. People have their rights taken away
c. Jag (air force lawyers) making the claims-a refference was made about the former television show.
d. Jag sued the U.S.
e. Their belief was: it was the wrong route to go on, these actions were deceiving what the LAW was about

2. Big Casino (328)
a. Grutman-famous lawyer
b. known for theatrical techniques
c. how the techniques of lawyers influences what it means to be a lawyer in the U.S. today
3. The Price of Law
a. How does the economics of law influence what law means
b. How the law is practiced distorts the legal system
c. Legal market place does not mimic the ideal market place
d. closely related to OP, and RP and the article: Billable Hour
1. People can manipulate the field while others cannot

*Lawyers who work for military practice under a different code of law
Where should we prosecute terrorists? …in military courts or the other courts?
-enhanced interrogation or torture: military techniques

*Each case looks at the legal profession


-Jeffersonia (not so easy access to become a lawyer) v
Jacksonia (easy access to become a lawyer) ex. Abraham Lincoln

-America was 45 years old, young but old enough to establish its own routines
- Lafayette: another French aristocrat who had interest in the democracy in America
- French aristocrat Tocqueville: sympathetic to America’s democratic law
-writing when monarchy was reestablished
-was curious in whether or not democracy would be sustainable or not
-America was growing rapidly after the Louisiana Purchase

*Points made from Tocquevilles’ piece in the text:
-it was a travel log
-puzzled concerned for tyranny of the majority
-Jacksonia—threat “democracy of “ya-hoo’s” is a scary thing –Prof. allred
-founding work of American studies
-systematic work of what is law look like in America
-(pg.319) What are the excesses of the democracy?
-tyranny of the majority which means majority rules
-what kind of “tyrannists” things can the majority do?
-south enslaved blacks
-civil rights of all minorities have never been a priority
-majority can inflict their values on the minorities
-majority can push their interests on the minority

*We are the longest running democracy.

*We discussed previous presidents: Washington, Jefferson, Adams and almost president Hamilton as well as the federalist’s party

*We ended class with a short discussion about the tea party movement; reffered to by Dr. Allred as the tea bag movement.

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